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Ms. Ref. No.: JSV-D-06-01203Title: Fault diagnosis research based on time-frequency analysis method in rotor systems
Journal of Sound and Vibration
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Reviewers' comments:
Reviewer #1: Comments on JSV-D-06-01203
Title: Fault diagnosis research based on time-frequency method in rotor systems
By: ××, ××and ××××××
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The paper presents an application of reassigned wavelet scalogram for rotor system fault diagnosis. It is a topic of interest to the researchers in the related areas but the paper needs very significant improvement before acceptance for publication. My detailed comments are as follows:
1. The wavelet method (reassigned wavelet scalogram) used in the paper works very well for the underlying fault diagnosis problem. On the other hand, this wavelet method is a well-established method, and the present research is a direct application of this method without new contribution in methodological research.
2. For the above reason, the presentation should be focused on the results. Unfortunately, the presentation is far from acceptable for publication. The material was not properly organized and it is strongly suggested that the authors check carefully the English writing and use standard terminologies in the technical area.
3. The title of the paper should be more specific since numerous studies have been done on the fault diagnosis of rotor systems using wavelets and time-frequency methods. Also, remove the word "research".
4. On Section 1:
· This section listed many references that are mainly related to rotor dynamics and are not directly related to rotor system diagnosis. If the authors would like to keep these references, some discussions on the relevance of these refs to the present research are needed.
· Review on the directly relevant refs will be more helpful for the reader. Also, time-frequency and wavelets are mainly for non-stationary and transient analysis. The author may discuss in more detail what types of transients and non-stationary components would appear in rotor system vibration.
· A few sentences on the organization of the paper will be helpful.
5. On Section 2:
· Since the major method used in the application is reassigned wavelet scalogram, it is not needed to give the details of three other methods (only give a few words and give the refs). Instead, the authors may discuss more on the relationship between traditional wavelet scalogram and the reassigned wavelet scalogram, and explain why the latter is better than the former.
· Eq (2): the right-hand-side is wrong and "2" is missed.
· The description after Eq (2) is not clear. See Cohen's book for details about the cross-terms.
6. On Sections 3 and 4:
The description needs to be improved. The material in Section 3 should be organized in several paragraphs.
7. On Section 5:
· The authors did a good experiment and some of the phenomena presented in the time-frequency planes are also very interesting. However, the observations should be described concisely, and the authors should focus more on: 1) whether these phenomena are general characteristics, and 2) if possible, explain the reason of the phenomena and the advantages of reassigned wavelet scalogram over other time-frequency methods.
· In fact, it is possible to interpret most of the phenomena in the time-frequency planes using rotor dynamics. For example, shaft rub causes broadband vibration and will result in nearly horizontal lines in the phase planes.
· Some of the paragraphs are too long.
8. The conclusion should be concise and only summarize the most important contribution of the research.
Reviewer #2: This paper presents the results of time-frequency analysis applied to a table top rotating machinery test rig under a set of fault conditions. The title of the paper is very misleading because no automated methods for either fault detection or diagnosis/isolation are discussed in the paper. Rather, under different fault scenarios, several time-frequency methods available in the literature are evaluated for their ability to generate visually discriminating features associated with the fault conditions. Hence, this paper provides a characterization of time-frequency features associated with rotating machinery faults as opposed to the development of any type of fault diagnosis methodology. Hence, the paper must be judged solely on the quality of the experimentation, the presentation of the results, and how the time-frequency features identified in the various fault cases relates to the dynamical operating conditions of the rig.
The main problem with the paper is that it is very poorly written, and this makes the evaluation and interpretation of the main contributions of the paper obscure.The paper requires a complete rewrite to improve the grammar, style and readability. Also consider:
In equation (1) on page 2, what does it mean that h(t) is centered at t=0 and f=0? h(t) is a windowing function in the time domain!
What is the point of the simulation experiments, what do they add to what is already known about the time-frequency techniques from the literature?
Since the only contribution of the paper is the time-frequency analysis, the results of these computations need to be explained in detail in the text and the graphical results need to be properly annotated so that readers can comprehend and understand which distinguishing features are associated with the faults. Currently, the graphical results are poorly displayed and it is difficult to correlate the figures with the text.
[ 本帖最后由 malong 于 2007-7-18 08:47 编辑 ] 英语水平太烂，实在不好意思 有些审稿人的 意思我都不太明白 希望大家能帮我理一下思路 告诉我怎么改比较合适 文章组织也比较混乱 真是头疼
我也希望大家共同学习！
真诚的希望的你的一点建议！谢谢大家！
[ 本帖最后由 mjhzhjg 于 2007-8-11 13:46 编辑 ] 我只看了review 1的前三点意见：
1. 好像楼主没有在paper中突出自己的工作，审稿人感觉你只是用了The wavelet method 这个方法。可能是楼主没有让审稿人很清楚你工作中的创新点，也就是你的idea。
2. 英语写作上没有很好的使用专业词汇，这个要看相关文献是怎么写的了，他们的英文表述。
3. 题目取得太大了，审稿人好像感觉应该更具体一点。
太长了，后面的还来不及看:@) 我不是做这个方面的，仅是对审稿意见的一点浅薄理解，不当之处还请楼主及其他朋友指正。 1、方法比较成熟了，所以文章的重点应该在于方法的应用及实验的结论上
2、题目要详细、准确因为你的文章重点是用小波方法诊断
3、前言综述与文章主题的关系。
................ review 1:
4. section1：参考文献的引用上，应该引一些与rotor system diagnosis的研究工作直接相关的文献，最好对这些文献做一些分析，与楼主所作工作的关系。
5. section2：楼主只需要介绍wavelet scalogram这个方法，对于其他文章中没有用到了方法就不用介绍了。
6.7.8 涉及的都是表述上的，楼主没有很清楚的把问题说清楚，材料和方法的介绍上应该更详细一些，实验结果需要解释，说明结果是否具有一般性，结论应准确地说出文章工作的贡献。
这个审稿人还是很认真负责的，写得比较详细而具体。
虽然看到这样一堆意见的审稿结果比较受刺激，但是换个角度想想，审稿人还是很专业的，意见中肯而具体，更有利于我们工作和写作的提高，不是吗？:@) review2：
1. 文章题目取得太大了，应该是一看题目就知道你文章的工作。
2. 英文的写作问题，问题没有说清楚。
3. 缺少试验结果的说明。
回复 #2 malong 的帖子
Feature extraction based on the 3D spectrum analysis of acoustic signals to identify rotor malfunctionmalong可以参考一下这篇文章，这个也是用成熟的理论来分析实验结果的，文章的重点在最后的三维谱的分析以及如何解释那些谱峰。 非常感谢大家的建议，我会好好考虑的，如果文章复审能通过，我会把文章修改心得，发到论坛，也希望大家能踊跃发言，最好能把自己的成功与失败经验都与大家共享，这样许多人要少走很多弯路的，最后再次向大家说一声 谢谢！ 原帖由 zhlong 于 2007-7-18 10:46 发表 http://www.chinavib.com/forum/images/common/back.gif
Feature extraction based on the 3D spectrum analysis of acoustic signals to identify rotor malfunction
malong可以参考一下这篇文章，这个也是用成熟的理论来分析实验结果的，文章的重点在最后的三维谱 ...
这篇文章 你有吗 我在我们学校网上没有找到 如果你能下载 能传给我信箱吗？
我信箱： mahui_2007@126.com 谢谢
回复 #9 malong 的帖子
已发送，请查收！ 上交大 孟光老师他们作声信号的转子故障方面的，国内类似的文章也看到过，国外还有一篇mechanical signal好像也有，！如果大家谁有关于声发射传感器测量碰摩或裂纹方面的资料也可以探讨一下，我们实验室也在准备开展这方面的工作了，已经购买了声发射仪！ 从审稿人的意见看，建议修改后另投它刊。
关于声发射诊断转子碰摩和裂纹方面的工作，记得清华大学褚福磊老师的学生曾经做过，不妨查查看。 原帖由 happyman 于 2007-7-18 20:13 发表 http://www.chinavib.com/forum/images/common/back.gif
从审稿人的意见看，建议修改后另投它刊。
关于声发射诊断转子碰摩和裂纹方面的工作，记得清华大学褚福磊老师的学生曾经做过，不妨查查看。
如果另投它刊，为什么不直接拒绝呢？ 而且我在网站看到已经变成修订状态，我觉得还是要看修订情况才决定是否拒绝！
回复 #13 malong 的帖子
应该是要看修改情况。回复 #1 malong 的帖子
malong兄能否还介绍一下你第一次发稿过去的信是怎么写的？我现在有一篇也想发到ＪＳＶ去，给个模版学习一下哈。
及投到这里的一些注意事项！
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